tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8370619227360997359.post4317225407395692096..comments2024-02-26T02:20:51.185-08:00Comments on Carjacked Seraphim: Type I, II and III Demons are TERRIBLEJimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18158916950442942918noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8370619227360997359.post-46195698119074805542011-05-25T03:01:50.687-07:002011-05-25T03:01:50.687-07:00@1d30 - Just checked last night, no demons, no dev...@1d30 - Just checked last night, no demons, no devils, no tanar'ri or baatazu even in the Rules Cyclopedia or the Creature Catalog. I never got the Wrath of the Immortals, so I can't speak to that.David The Archmagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11649391406526258069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8370619227360997359.post-81634270891993613622011-05-24T14:07:59.971-07:002011-05-24T14:07:59.971-07:00RC has these demon types too IIRC. I'd swear V...RC has these demon types too IIRC. I'd swear Vrocks were in one of the Wrath of the Immortals adventures.<br /><br />Also, I think it's okay that they don't have a ton of special abilities. They're footsoldiers right? The filth swimming around near the bottom of the demonic barrel. When you start getting into Marilith, Balor, etc. then we should pile on the magical abilities.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8370619227360997359.post-3173583059629595892011-05-23T18:25:34.092-07:002011-05-23T18:25:34.092-07:00@Dead G -- I admit that I should have used the tel...@Dead G -- I admit that I should have used the teleport much, much better. Didn't see it until I started this analysis. :( Being on a critical career-changing call in the middle of the battle didn't help either... :)<br />@David -- thanks for the feedback.Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18158916950442942918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8370619227360997359.post-21831291038285416862011-05-23T17:32:42.468-07:002011-05-23T17:32:42.468-07:00I missed all these guys, going from Rules Cycloped...I missed all these guys, going from Rules Cyclopedia into 2nd Edition, so I can't really offer too many suggestions, but I think your revised list of resistances makes a lot of sense.David The Archmagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11649391406526258069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8370619227360997359.post-33786137842732412272011-05-23T16:45:51.683-07:002011-05-23T16:45:51.683-07:00If you aren't using the full array of demon ab...If you aren't using the full array of demon abilities each round, then you are drastically underpowering them. Grapple, followed by teleport to high height, followed by dropping is a standard attack mode that is devastating to any non-magic user caster. Telekinesis is a fine power as well, especially when used to push the PC upward or to launch attacks from a distance. Last, demons should gate every round they can. The biggest peril in fighting them is that they call home for reinforcements. <br /><br />If you take the demons and use them like orcs, of course they are easily defeated.Dead Greyhawkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10553244620157816145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8370619227360997359.post-72234426857113116552011-05-23T07:29:37.746-07:002011-05-23T07:29:37.746-07:00@Needles -- Thanks. Type II and III are next...
@...@Needles -- Thanks. Type II and III are next...<br />@Roger -- Good points. I should have probably used Gate/Teleport a little more aggressively. Throw in 1pt of regen each round and now you've really got something...Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18158916950442942918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8370619227360997359.post-39798983943203306182011-05-23T00:23:51.678-07:002011-05-23T00:23:51.678-07:00Yeah ... I still think that the special abilities ...Yeah ... I still think that the special abilities should be used with infernal cunning (despite low-average intelligence) and given their teleport ability there is little chance a party will get a death blow on one of these. Also, gated demons who gate in demons have the potential to create a Malthusian demon horde real quick. For me, it's not that the powers are weak, but they're un-fun to use to their maximum extent.Roger G-Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08594440701279968693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8370619227360997359.post-37301310077356268872011-05-22T21:09:53.281-07:002011-05-22T21:09:53.281-07:00Very Nice vibe on those lesser classic demonsVery Nice vibe on those lesser classic demonsNeedleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11243274667834930867noreply@blogger.com